From: Ann Barcomb Date: 16:45 on 14 Aug 2003 Subject: Re: close tab/close other tabs (fwd) Resent due to the reason mentioned in my last mail about hates software. How much do you want to bet this forwarding is going to mess up threading? ;) Hey, in mailing list software you have to be prepared for every stupid thing a user could do! --------- I want to jump in on the hating Mozilla thread. I have a big problem with pasting to and from the browser. I don't know if this is a problem with X, my window manager, or Mozilla, but I don't have the same problem with other applications. When I highlight a URL or text in the page and then try to paste it in to an xterm, I'm far more likely to get whatever I highlighted before I touched the browser. It usually takes 3 or 4 tries to get it right. And when I try to paste a URL in to the browser, I generally get whatever I last highlighted in Mozilla, rather than what's in the xterm, especially if I switched to another virtual desktop. Next, what is the point of the 'about:blank' text that shows up if you open a new tab and then return to an old tab without typing in a URL? It's not as if this text automatically vanishes as soon as you start typing something in. Nor does the browser simply ignore it if it appears in your URL. No, you have to delete it yourself every time. It also appears if you do type in a URL, but then switch to another tab without actually trying to fetch the page. Why, when it is trying to auto-complete URLs, does it always seem to go for the very obscure URL rather than the one I have visited more often? Instead of trying http://somesite.com, the first thing it will offer is http://somesite.com/some/very/long/path?with=args. Mozilla also can't process commands like cntrl-T or cntrl-N when it is busy contacting a site. In the morning, I like to open a new tab, type in the URL, and then go on to opening the next one while it is fetching the first. But I can only open the next tab when the first is mostly done. It doesn't even delay the command; it just eats it. Finally, when I'm filling in a form field, and then return to paste in some text, the place where the text is pasted is usually wrong. It's not where I was last typing, and it's not where the mouse is positioned, either. Often the field isn't even selected any longer. I have this problem with every browser though, so maybe it's me and not Mozilla. And despite that, Mozilla is my favorite browser. Everything else I've tried is even worse.
From: Philip Newton Date: 09:09 on 15 Aug 2003 Subject: Re: close tab/close other tabs (fwd) On 14 Aug 2003 at 8:45, Ann Barcomb wrote: [about:blank] > It also appears if you do type in a URL, but then > switch to another tab without actually trying to fetch the page. Ooh yes. This is particularly useful if you want to type in a URL you saw on another web page (if, for some reason, you're not using copy-and- paste). Type in as much as you can remember, switch back to the page you saw the URL on, memorise a couple more components, switch back... and the partial URL is gone. I wonder who thought this would be useful. > Mozilla also can't process commands like cntrl-T or cntrl-N when > it is busy contacting a site. This is, at the moment, the biggest gripe I have with MozillaFirebird - the unresponsiveness while it's doing things. (It also sometimes likes to eat the Ctrl key when I'm Ctrl-clicking on a bunch of links to open them in new tabs, causing my current page to be replaced by a random link.) Cheers, Philip
From: Ann Barcomb Date: 09:18 on 15 Aug 2003 Subject: more Mozilla (was: close tab/close other tabs) Philip complained: > (It also sometimes likes to eat the Ctrl key when I'm Ctrl-clicking on > a bunch of links to open them in new tabs, causing my current page to > be replaced by a random link.) It's not just the control key it is eating. I use my middle mouse button to open links in a new tab, and sometimes it does exactly the same thing. I'm pretty sure it's not me, because I have a full-size middle button (not a scrollwheel), and my fingers just aren't _that_ big. I can never understand how it chooses the page to load, either. It's not the page I was clicking on--it's usually one of the pages I have open in another tab.
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